Do Dentists and Botox Belong Together?

I’ve seen too many dental procedures “rushed” because of lack of time, either from added emergencies to the schedule or just trying to squeeze as many procedures into a day as possible. These people went into dentistry with the intent to heal…many patients are already concerned about paying high prices for what may be “unnecessary” procedures. By offering Botox, the practice may reinforce that speculation by many.

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Some of the arguments I’m reading here against dentists administering botox are utterly baseless.

The very fact that oral surgeons are administering Botox Cosmetic categorically eliminates the question of whether or not it falls within the scope of dentistry. Let’s get something straight here: oral surgeons are dentists. They are dentists who have specialized in oral and maxillofacial surgery–a specialty of dentistry. They are not physicians, they are not plastic surgeons, they are not dermatologists, nor do they even practice medicine. Rather, they practice dentistry. If it has been determined that facial cosmetics falls within the scope of dentistry, then everyone with a DDS or DMD after his/her name and a dental license should be considered eligible to administer Botox for cosmetic treatment when in possession of proper training. (A four year oral surgery residency is not necessary, as has been shown by our counterparts in the medical profession who have their meagerly-trained nurses and physician-assistants giving the injections).

Dentistry has already expanded itself into areas of treatment that are clearly not dental-related; can any of you honestly say that nose-jobs and facelifts should be considered a part of dentistry? If oral surgeons can perform these procedures, then general dentists should be able to perform exceedingly simple tasks like injecting Botox and Restylane for treatments that are cosmetic in nature.

Since my last visit to this site I have seen another DDS. In Illinois DDSTRY second opinions appear to be frowned upon. A patient becomes labeled as “difficult” maybe even “hostile.” Is it possible for a DDSTRY patient to be “blackballed?”

My new dds also noted infection from decay & at least 3 abscesses. Unlike my prior consults with DDS’s who laughed at my past & present dental predicament from an improperly placed, intentionally filed down TMD reconstruction leaving me to look as tho I’m wearing dentures but don’t have them…(hideous) My new DDS immediately RX’d antibiotics & 9 nine days later my posteriors were extracted.

All were decayed under the crowns & bridgework with at least 3 abscesses. One extracted molar had an abscess attached to it. The Oral Surgeon stated they were the most difficult teeth he has to remove. He also said he could’nt imagine my pain. My DDS states if my extractions were performed by anyone other than an Oral Surgeon my jaw could’ve been broke.

Before this no DDS would work on me or treat the abscesses knowing I survived septic shock from a prior untreated molar unless I agreed to another recon or implants. One DDS wanted $20,000.00 for both a 3 & 4 unit bridge.

Today it appears easier for a woman to have both her breasts removed than extract decayed teeth infecting her body.

My Oral Surgeon says I made the right decision & another recon would’ve been unsuccessful.

After an unsuccessful recon my old DDS said he could successfully recon me & quarantee it twice as long as this $30,000.00 recon (my medical bills from septic shock amounted to over $250,000.00, I went on to have all my internal organs relocate outside my body with ileus, strictures, adhesions & intra abdominal abscess..I was vomitting my own feces). His quarantee added up to 8 yrs… less than the life expectancy of just 1 crown.

It’s been my experience that a DDS would prefer a patient die rather than honor a free replacement guarantee.

Since January my physician has been left to RX antibiotics fearing septicemia again.

One Prostho told me an Oral Surgeon would come to his office to do the extractions. The Prostho also set up a dental plan loan at $800.00 a month. When I checked the “Oral Surgeon’s” licensure I found him to be a Periodontist. Questioning his capabilities he backed out of the procedure & appeared insulted.

I was told my procedure would be complete in a month. 6 weeks past & I heard nothing but I received a bill for $800.00..My first monthly installment. Luckily I was told the perio would not extract my teeth.

I was then referrd to a licensed Oral Surgeon & he examined me while seated on a table with a floor lamp. He stated he could’nt give a full consult because he never received a treatment plan nor the numbers of the teeth to be removed. He charged me three times the quoted consult fee. He never suggested a panorex but knowing I had no med insurance he RX’d 2 CT scans & a MRSA test.

He told me he would consult with me when all test results were reported back to him along with my full medical history & all hospital reports since 2004. He asked if I ever sued a DR before. He told me not to touch anything or I’d infect his office. (I survived septic shock in 2004, there was no reason to treat me as a pariah). I had a pre-op exam clearing me for oral surgery on 2/3/2009. He ran room to room washing his hands with hand sanitizer. I pray his other rooms have DDS’s chairs.

Tho he states he never received a treatment plan nor the numbers of the teeth to be extracted he charged me $184.00 instead of the quoted $74.00 consultation fee.

I paid the quoted $74.00 fee & now he is threatening to take me to court. He knowingly & admittedly states he never recieved a treatment plan nor the numbers of the teeth to be extracted. The appointment should’ve been immediately cancelled & rescheduled till he found himself professionally informed. I think my money should be refunded.

The recommending prostho who was billing me $800.00 a month took $150.00. I was responsible for the $800.00 a month loan till the Prostho returned the money 4 months later.

It’s been 5 months and my treatment plan is a success. My immediate dentures are beautiful & I can’t stop smiling. My immediate dentures have given me back everthing my miserable DDS intentionally stole from me:-)

Everyone is in awe of my immediate dentures and can’t imagine what my permanent dentures will look like.

This dental practice and lab obviously have a “GIFT.”

NO! Botox, & wrinkle fillers should not be done in a dentists office. Maybe that’s why I was examined for extractions in a room filled with before & after botox & wrinkle filler pictures while sitting on a table with a floor lamp. There was no dentist chair in the room. Today some dentists are looking for a quicker type of sedation. Preferably quick to leave the bodies system & in pill form. Stay awake & check your dentists licensure. Your dentist may be licensed to practice dentistry but unlicensed to administer sedation or to have or write control substance prescriptions. Many dentists are practicing while their licenses are suspended. Check your dentist thru your states department of professional regulations.

Hello,

I am a licensed dentist in the state of Illinois. I was recently certified to inject Botox for dental purposes. However I have been asked numerous times if I could host a “Botox Party” outside the office. During the process of the course we were informed to only administer Botox for dental purposes. Are there some other licenses or certifications I need to obtain in order to fullfil these request for the cosmetic outcome? Thank you.

If specialized and unspoecialized MD’s are comfortable employing RN’s who have zero training in facial anatomy and masticatory diseases to inject Botox on their behalf in their offices, then they should have no objection to the profession most trained, dentists, doing these procedures. Also, it is close to impossible having someone untrained in smile esthetics use injectible fillers around the mouth and to expect a natural esthetically pleasing outcome.

Dental Boards dont make the rules they enforce the rules.It is the politicians that make the rules on behalf of lobbyists representing MD’s who do not want to have dentists participate in this lucrative field.This has nothing to do with training and skill. If it did, ONLY THE DENTISTS WOULD BE DOING THESE PROCEDURES. PRIOR TO THE USE OF THESE MATERIALS, MD’S AND RN,S WERE NOT ROUTINELY INJECTING IN THE MOUTH AND FACE.

If a medical doctor or a dentist holds the diploma for placing botox then it should suffice (if the diploma is recognised by the countrys health regulators). The head and neck anatomy is done extensivley in dentistry, furthermore if maxillo-facial and oral surgery is a direct branch of dentistry then placing botox is mild in comparison. Local anaesthesia on the face is used when doing extra-oral approaches to internal fracture reductions in facial regions. My only qualm is when a practioner feels he is unable to handle the procedure and then goes ahead with it. If one feels they cannot handle more complex procedures then one should refer to a specialist. This is almost always how the heirarchy of medicine goes. Im pretty sure my dental colleagues in US and around the world would agree?

You are really fu*k up …

10 people a week that is..